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more than a decade ago may have been kidnapped to teach english to the north korean dictator. good morning, and welcome to saturday. we're grateful for your company as always. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. good to be with you. in just a few hours, donald trump will be at a black church in detroit attending a service there doing a taped q & a with the church's pastor afterwards. this is in effort to court black voters since a recent poll, take a look, just 2% among african-american voters according to this poll. >> on the other side, hillary clinton is using the i do not recall defense. that's what he told the fbi. donald trump quick to pounce on this. take a listen. >> when you look at what they've done with respect to these fbi notes where she didn't know what the letter "c" was, that's a
lie. unless she's not an intelligent person, that's a total lie. >> cnn's ryan nobles is following this story for us. ryan, what else was in this document that was released? >> well victor, it's pretty clear that clinton's recollection was an important part of this investigation by the fbi. at one point, investigators, wrote, quote, clinton did not recall receiving any e-mails she thought should be on the unclassified system. she relied on officials to use their judgment when e-mailing her and could not rely on the sensitivity of the information she received at her e-mail address. in particular, the american drone program. the one point, the fbi said, quote, clinton stated that she did not remember the e-mail specifically. clinton stated deliberation over a future drone strike did not
give her cause for concern, concerning classification. now, clinton understood this type of conversation as part of the routine deliberation process. now, the sending and receiving of classified information on that private e-mail server has been a big criticism of clinton. and it's part of why officials seriously considered criminal charges but these notes do back up much of what director james comey said in his bombshell press conference back in july where he revealed that clinton was, quote, extremely careless, her actions do not rise to the level of a crime. the release of this information, though, that we've pointed out is something that republican as have been calling for since comey pointed out he did not recommend charges against clinton. and donald trump reacted he, quote, doesn't understand how she was able to get away from prosecution. victor. >> ryan nobles for us in washington. thank you so much.
let's go to danelle mclock in, clinton strategic and ladies, thank you both for being with us. let's look at this here. the headline is 39 different times that hillary clinton could not recall or remember the answer to questions from the fbi, regarding these e-mails. and what "c" meant, whether it meant classification, whether it meant classified, whether it meant confidential. how much of a problem, let me ask you, danielle, is this for hillary clinton, when it comes to, as donald trump said a lot of people think that charges should have been brought? and let me be very clear here this does not indicate at all that criminal charges should have been brought. go ahead. >> i think there's been a lot of talk about the fact that she said i don't recall on in an interview 39 times in an interview that lasted about four times. that's about ten times an hour.
with agents and clienting doing this, ten times is not a lot. in 2009, and frankly, i think we need to hold hillary clinton to a standard that the rest of us might be held. and realistically, i don't recall some of the things that happened seven years ago. >> do you want to respond to that, lieutenant governor? >> shockingly, mrs. clinton said she could not recall whether she ever received training on how to protect classified information. and she also failed to get training for her stuff for aides on how to protect classified information. even know the state requires. regardless of criminality, it's obvious mrs. clinton isn't responsible enough to serve as president of the united states. the president receives a classified briefing every morning. she would not be able to keep that information protected. >> let me ask you, danielle, the
rnc chair reince priebus came out saying this is a december stating judgment of mrs. clinton. this is hitting her in a place where she's very vulnerable to voters. could it cost hillary clinton votes? >> it could. obviously, republicans want that to happen so it kicks up enough dust so they don't hear the headlines. let's look at the facts. the 60,000 e-mail change out of 30,000 that's classified information that's a small fraction of e-mails that clinton received. per her testimony on benghazi, at the time, none of those e-mails were marked classified. the problem with these e-mails, every time e-mail comes up, the 16,000 that was heard about, republicans say e-mail scandal and hope that the american people want to look a little further to examine the facts. >> okay. you know, hillary clinton has
been trying to explain this e-mail controversy for more than a year. nearly 18 months at this point. lieutenant governor, i mean, does this controversy still have life? >> oh, yeah -- >> is it because her opponent continually want to keep this at a headline? >> no, it goes to the very basic issue, is she capable? is she responsible of taking on a huge job like running the united states government. after all, mrs. clinton has never won anything accept the state department. and her track record there obviously is very tainted because she's left it in such chaos with so many doubts about the confidentiality of the information that was passed from one aide in the state department to the other. and it goes to something bigger than that. we basically have a contest here between someone who has earned her living as a blabber. giving speeches and earning speech fees.
and writing books about herself, versus someone who has built 185 businesses and manages them effectively. so, it's the builder versus the blabber. and it seems quite obvious that mrs. clinton probably couldn't run a lemonade stand. she doesn't seem to have the capability of knowing what her staff is doing, and whether she and her staff are complying with regulations to protect the mission of her department. >> okay. lieutenant governor, i want to get this last question out here because there is an article in "the new york times" this morning talking about tension between donald trump and the rnc particularly at the speech he gave in phoenix earlier this week. they, according to the "times," they spokes to republicans with detailed knowledge of both groups saying threatens the ability to work smoothly with mr. trump. mr. trump needs this party to win, doesn't he?
of course, there are fund-raising efforts to keep them together, but do you know how big the risk is and how it may compromise the campaign? >> i think most republicans regard mr. trump's performance this week, the speech as a tour de force, in which he demonstrated the best knowledge of the immigration issue and he told americans that he would give them an immigration policy that protects americans from serious crime and from the strained resources that they're aexperiencing right now because of unlimited illegal immigration. >> danielle, i want to give you the last word. >> i mean, this idea that we have unlimited illegal immigration is utter nonsense and what trump has been trying to do. focusing on illegal immigrants who are dangerous, the criminals. those who have entered and re-entered multiple times while
standing at the back of the line that have given some legal status to those paying taxes, who have children here and who are productive members of society. >> we appreciate both of you ladies. thank you for being here. on labor day, by the way, you're going to hear personal stories about both the presidential candidates. from the people who know them best. it's a night of cnn special reports beginning at 8:00 with unfinished business, the essential hillary clinton. and all business, the essential donald trump. and meeting face-to-face with voters at an african-american church in detroit. we'll take you there in a moment but first tropical storm hermine. threatening high rains and heavy winds up the entire east coast. sherisse pham following that for
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tropical storm hermine is lashing the carolinas now. it's heading north, training to wash out labor day plans for millions of people. look at this. we've got live pictures for you here. large waves crashing into the shore. the winds still feared in some places. leaving behind damaged homes in some areas. got close to two feet of rain. now, officials are warning the threat is not over. hermine is expected to return to hurricane force this weekend, before slamming into the northeast. i want to check in now with cnn's sherisse pham, she's live offer the coast of north carolina where a flash flood watch is in effect right now. we heard from you, sherisse, a few moments ago that strong
winds came through. what are you seeing now? >> reporter: yeah, just before you guys came to us we had really strong winds coming through. so strong, in fact, overnight, take a look at this, it blew the sign off of our hotel. take a look here it is right here, lying in a puddle on the coastal road. now, this is what north carolina needs to stay aware of and look out for in the coming days because inland flooding is the greatest right now. according to the national hurricane center it's the leading death from tropical storms. 31,000 people are without power today. you have to remember, says that labor day weekend. we've got a lost tourists. we've got a lot of visitors here. officials are saying please stay out of the ocean. we've got dangerous surf conditions and strong rip tides. we talked to business owners coming here to the coastal road checking out their businesses making sure things are okay. so far, things are not too much flooding but officials say
please stay off the roads if you can. back to you, guys. >> yeah, the wind, rain, and beach erosion. sherisse pham, thanks so much. it's a shocking incident, bizarre. could an american man missing for 12 years actually be living in north korea and working for its dictator? plus, a prestigious university that was chastised for clavery now plans. is this enough
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20 minutes past the hour right now. an astonishing new report claims an american student missing since 2004 is now living in north korea and working as an english tutor for king jong-un. >> david sneddon sphered while working in china, chinese authorities suggested he may have fall ton his death. yahoo! news however reports sneddon now lists in the capital of pyongyang with a wife and two children. cnn global affairs correspondent elise labott is covering the
story. >> christi, victor, this latest report confirms what the parents of david sneddon thought for years. that he didn't drown in a river in china and was abducted by the government of north korea. today, the sneddons and their congressman are asking the state department to launch a new search. >> reporter: after a decade with his whereabouts unknown a shocking new claim about american student david sneddon who disappeared while hiking in china. yahoo! news reports sneddon was captured and taken to north korea to work as a tutor for the leader. it's a staggering theory that his parents have claimed for years. >> it doesn't come as a shock because we have done our research and there's been time involved. and we do think that david is in north korea. >> reporter: sneddon then a 24-year-old brigham young
student disappeared during a hiking trip near the yuyuan province. chinese officials said he had fallen to his death in the tiger leaping gorge. his parents questions the time line of events. >> we thought he could have been taken. there could have been a thought by the chinese that somehow david was complicit with koreans running the underground railroad. >> reporter: they began to suspect their son who was fluent in korean was seized by the regime. four years ago, david's dad got a call. >> he phoned me, the conversation went something like this, i think i know where david is. he's teaching english. and he's doing that. pyongyang, for their kind of intelligence group.
>> reporter: soon after, a call from a japanese group tracking north korean abductions gave weight to their suspicion. >> describing david perfectly. student, where he's from. what he's doing. what he was capable of in many languages and that he was teaching english to leaders. >> reporter: congress is going to follow the every lead. >> it's become very plausible when you understand the regime's long history of abducting foreign citizens to use as training. >> reporter: the state department says it continues to raise sneddon's case with the chinese but sees nothing to support the claims he's in north korea. >> i can tell you we have seen no verifiable evidence to indicate that mr. sneddon was abducted by north korea. >> reporter: state department officials tell cnn they have looked into the claims. but they are looking into it once again.
and the japanese report doesn't offer any evidence or official sourcing to back up the claims. roy and kathleen sneddon also tell us they don't know how credible the report is, but they're cautiously optimistic that it will raise attention that will help them find out what happened to their son once and for all. >> christi, victor. donald trump in detroit today, will try to sway african-american voters on the campaign stop. it is stirring up controversy before it starts. jeremy diamond is following that story for us. jeremy, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, victor, we're outside of the harvest faith ministries in detroit where donald trump is expected to come in a couple hours. he's expected to make his outreach here coming inside an african-american community, instead of pitching his outreach to white voters largely. more on that, after the break.
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7:28 is the time. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. good to be with you. this morning, donald trump is doing what some suspect he should have or should have done a long time ago, going to a black church. going to a black community. >> he's going to attend a worship ceremony in an african-american church in
detroit. and he'll address the congregation. the church has not confirmed that detail, so there are some questions about what his role will be today. >> yeah, after the service, we know that trump will sit down with a taped interview with bishop dwayne t. jackson for an taped network interview. "the new york times" obtained a campaign document that shows not only was trump and the campaign, were they given the questions beforehand, but the campaign was walking on strictest responses to questions like is the campaign racist? joining me now from detroit is cnn reporter jeremy diamond. jeremy, what are we hearing from the bishop first and also the concern about the campaign? >> reporter: yeah, the criticism that trump is nation right now is that his appearance here today is going to be scripted. he's not really going to face any tough questions after strike a chord and hitting some
sensitivities in the black community. but donald trump, you know, is saying that he is going to be, you know, coming here. he's coming to the black community after weeks of making his appeal to largely white audiences. but the bishop, bishop wayne jackson, criticism that his appearance is going to be scripted today. listen to what he said yesterday on cnn. >> he has questions, yes, nobody has seen the questions but me, my secretary and a couple people who are close to me. and some of these questions came from prominent black ministers around the country. i mean, there are over thousands and thousands of people. so, these questions are not being seen by anyone. and mr. trump neither did his -- first of all, i have never spoken to mr. trump. i have never met mr. trump. i don't know mr. trump, only by what i see on television. when his camp reached out to me two months ago to sit down and
interview him, because he wants to come into the black community to share what his policies will be. and if we don't sit down in dialogue, then we don't know. we just can't get up and say, well, what the "h" do we have to lose? we need promises that's going to be real. >>. >> reporter: so, there you have bishop jackson saying he may have a few questions up his sleeve that donald trump has not seen. donald trump is going accompanied by dr. ben carson. he may be taking donald trump on a tour of the neighborhood here in detroit. of course, donald trump is coming into the black community, as he did yesterday, for the first time. donald trump has largely made his pitch before african-american voters before largely white audiences. this is a bit of a change. he's also faced criticism when talking to black voters saying what the hell do you have to
lose? saying black voters have no jobs, no school? using a bit of hyperbole there. some african-american leaders are saying that donald trump is going too far. that is not the reality that every african-american in the country faces. they're hoping that donald trump by coming into a black community can actually see what the reality is and understand it better. >> tone will be important today. jeremy diamond there in front of faith ministries, thanks so much. with efforts behind the podium, it has left many republicans confused, apparently. "the new york times" reporting the rnc was expecting the immigration speech tour passionate, to be measured but quote, what mr. trump said offered a fiery victim nation of migrant criminals suggested deporting hillary clinton, reince priebus, the party chairman signaled that aides should scrap the plan.
the evening tour a new wound in mr. trump's relationship with the rnc impeding the most important remaining political alliance. let's bring in danielle mclaughlin and betsy, at the end of the day, donald trump needs both? >> that's true. he is addressing the needs of the american people and ameri n americans want an immigration policy that benefits them. they want an immigration policy that will protect their jobs that will reduce criminality. and that will stop the tremendous strain on economic resources, such as emergency rooms and public schools. if you go into an emergency room, you'll see they're scrimping on care for seniors, turning away them, in part because the emergency rooms in many parts of the country are crowded with illegal immigrants
who must by law be fully treated. >> but, betsy, when we talk about who he needs, he does need part of the electorate who does believe in the rnc. >> well, it's true that the rnc is important, but i guarantee you they have chosen a winning candidate. there were 17 republican primary candidates on the stage. and donald trump beat out the other 16. knocking them over like bowling pins. so, now, it's time for the american people to make their choice. it's not up to the professional politicians anymore. >> okay. well, this week, there was some confusion in which donald trump people believed they were looking at. in particular, we saw two sides of him, one in mexico and 5 1/2 hours later in phoenix. let's take a look at what we saw within, say, a six-hour period. >> we're going to have the best people in the world negotiating
our great deals. >> we're going to find our great people and we're going to use them. i have the best people in the world. the best. >> he suddenly speaks to his audience. it wasn't quite the political hype i was speaking about in terms of the sound we were supposed to have there. he looked presidential when some say in mexico, and six hours later in phoenix, as you heard from "the new york times," very fiery, very different. danielle, as we look ahead, say, to the debate, who is hillary clinton preparing to meet on stage? >> i strongly suspect she's preparing to meet the rowdy donald trump. the angry and outlandish donald trump. i think the american people are having trouble trying to understand what exactly donald trump stands for. the immigration stance is a good
one. on the one hand, he's threatening mass deportation which frankly is impossible. he comes out of the meeting with the president of mexico with a different tone. we have three weeks away. 21 days, the american people don't know where he stands, particularly on infrastructure, on student loan debt. he's not prepared at this point to what would make americans think that he's going to be prepared in january to lead this country. >> well, betsy -- >> i want to address that. >> go ahead. >> donald trump has put forward a very impressive economic turnaround proposal. the economy is sputtering along with 1.2%. and african-americans are the most damaged by this declining economy. >> but a question, betsy, is he in detroit today for black voters or is he there -- >> oh, yes. let me make it very clear, african-american voters have a
choice between hillary clinton's demagoguery or accusations of racism, which they're not. let me just finish. donald trump's economic plan will produce 4% economic growth. more take-home pay and job opportunities which african-americans need more than anyone else because they've been left behind. they have been the worst victims of barack obama's stagnating economy. >> so, betsy, if this is the case, i only have a couple of seconds left here. danielle, i'll give you a chance to respond, but why hasn't he reached out to these groups sooner? he's only got two months left. >> the campaign is short. the convention was mid-july. it's the first week in september. and he is already reaching out to african-american communities around the country. this campaign is just beginning. >> okay. i'm sorry -- >> we are weeks from the debate and almost 70 days left. >> danielle, ten seconds.
>> donald trump began his campaign on the fear. if you're a woman, illegal immigrant or otherwise he had that. >> we appreciate you both being here today. thank you, ladies. the visit to that african-american church in detroit is about two hours away. and the man who set up that visit is pastor mark burns. a really boastful trump surrogate. he spoke at the republican national convention. and made news by tweeting hillary clinton in black face but he apologized and took it down. now there are questions into his background. i looked into a number of claims that pastor burns made about his experience, about his credentials on his church's website. that he was in the army reserves. he what in a fraternity, graduated from college. other claims as well. here's some of what the pastor had to say. did you attend north greenville university? >> i did attend. >> reporter: did you graduate from? >> no, i didn't receive a
degree. >> reporter: okay, again, the bio that's on your website claims that you earned a bachelor of science degree. did you make that claim? >> i actually just a moment ago, as we were -- opened up -- first of all, i said we were off the record. >> reporter: i didn't agree to that. >> yeah, but i did. i did. >> reporter: we're still rolling, i'm still asking you questions on the record. did you make that claim -- >> i think this is not fair that -- this is not fair at all. this is not what we -- i thought we were doing a profile. all of a sudden you're -- >> reporter: i'm not coming here to destroy your character. these are claims made on your website that were lies while you were speaking at the republican national convention. my question is, are those claims accurate? coming up in the next hour, you'll see more of that conversation. more of the interview with pastor burns. how his story changed during that interview. and then ended with pastor burns
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president obama moments ago spoke with the chinese president and other world leaders. you see that video here. >> there are a few other meetings that could get interesting. obama is meeting with the turkish prime minister and vladimir putin. and there are issues on escalating the security there. our michelle kosinski joins us with details on that meeting. michelle, security, i understand very tight. they're having a hard time reaching you, is that correct. >> reporter: yeah, well, we didn't have any planned briefings with them. it's really access here. i mean, it started on the tarmac just as president obama was arriving a few hours ago. with the press being held back,
securitieses tried to design the press pool access. there was yelling, it was described by the press pool as screaming among u.s. officials trying to deal with u.s. officials to allow the press to have it's usual access. it was one of those times where white house officials were saying, look, this is our president and our plane arriving. the chinese were saying, oh, yeah, well, this is our country. that was unusual. at one point, the president's top national security advisers were being held back by chinese security. they kind of lifted up the ropes that were put up and just went right through them. it happened again just before the bilateral meeting with president xi where there was access that was going to be denied. and again, a screaming match broke out. and some members of the press described it as looking that it was going to come to blows between chinese and u.s. officials. we haven't seen that happen before. that's just one more reminder. yes, for a meeting like this,
every country wants to put its best foot forward. and have everything looking perfect and sounding perfect. something like that told you that, yeah, this is a place where access of the press and openness from the governments aren't exactly viewed quite the same as they are in the u.s., right? >> yeah. and i'm sure that it does give you a very different feeling being there. thank you so much, michelle kosinski, we appreciate understanding the sense of what's happening there. president obama joins fareed zakaria. and healing old wounds. a prestigious college acknowledges its past ties to slavery and makes moves to make amends. this week 50% off all backpacks. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great.
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bring down that tone. here with us is dr. chatlin who was part of this. there are many institutions that profited and benefits from slavery and the sale of the slaves and work of the slaves. georgetown made this move. why and why now? >> well, i think it's important to note that although for many of us this is common knowledge, i think there's a sector of this population that wants to believe that slavery never happened. so then are we are entering this conversation now, the reason we are entering this conversation now is we are preparing to enter a dialogue about slaivery, but this brings up questions about race and ethnic injustice. so this is one of the many things we do as a university. >> i want you to listen to one of the descendants of those slaves and then we'll talk about that on the other side.
>> i don't know that we can say, oh, this is enough. it's just a great beginning. what they're doing as a university, as a prominent university that was saved by the horrific idea of human as chatle, and they're stepping up and admitting that was wrong. and that they are researching it to see how it all played out. >> so you hear that there, and the question that is, what in addition to this priority status is part of this plan? >> in addition to the legacy status, we have recommended the intensive study about this history, making the history more accessible to a larger public, understanding our role as a university in repairing some of the pervasive legacies of racism, including segregation, educational inequality and health disparities. so this is absolutely a beginning. and it's an invitation for the public to come closer, not only
to georgetown's history, but to the nation's desire and need to reconcile its dark and shameful past. >> so the journalist with the atlantic book of "between the world and me" which is a fabulous book, if you haven't read it, pick it up. he tweeted this, folks may not like the word reprations -- i. >> i think reparations is an issue that has been discussed for over a century. so i think what georgetown is doing is trying to imagine a restoration process and reconciliation process. and i think reparations is appropriate but i want us to understand that reparations is a mechanism to address a number of
issues. >> dr. martha chatlin, thank you for joining us. we'll continue this coverage as this plan continues to grow. thank you so much. >> thank you. ahead in the next hour of "new day," hillary clinton's camp is down playing the latest on the fbi e-mail report. how damaging is the new fbi report on the clinton investigation? [ clock ticking ]
>> and i'm victor blackwell. "new day" begins right now. >> they were extremely careless in their handling of highly classified sensitive information. >> the documents provide insight into why the fbi did not recommend charging hillary clinton after they found classified information on her private server. >> i would certainly not do that again. it was the wrong choice. i think we're the only hope. hillary clinton has no clue. and doesn't care. >> donald trump in detroit this morning at an african-american church trying to make end rows with the community. >> this is the chance for donald trump to use the african-american community. >> nothing means more to me than working to make our party the home of the african-american vote. what the hell do you have to lose? well, welcome again.
tropical storm hermine lashing the carolinas right now. it's heading north. i have heard it described as a sprint north, that's how much energy it's picking up. it will wash out labor day plans for millions of people. >> these are live pictures now. you can see the waves here crashing onto the shore. the winds in some places so fierce they left behind damaged homes and some areas got close to 2 feet of rain. but officials are now warning, listen, the threat is not over. hermine is expected to strengthen again to hurricane force this weekend before slamming into the northeast. >> cnn meteorologist allison chinchar is following the path of the storm. but we'll start with sharese who is off the coast, what are you seeing evolve in the weather in terms of the last couple of hours? >> reporter: well, over the last couple of hours, two hours ago we had really strong winds and really strong rain.
now you can see the rain has died down a bit, but if you look behind me, we have an angry sea and ominous cloud here. so like you said, inland flooding is a major concern for north carolina right now. we were on the coastal road a little while ago and there was not too much flooding there, but police say to stay off the road if you can. if you come across standing water, don't try to drive through. the worst of the storm came through last night and it left more than 31,000 people without power and reports of a possible tornado touch down not too far from us in hatteras. so now officials are saying stay out of the ocean. this is labor day weekend. we have lots of storms and visitors here. we saw a couple of them walking on the beach, actually, they are still walking along the beach. they are very determined and optimistic folks. but officials say to stay out of the water. dangerous surf conditions and strong rip tides. back to you guys. >> even though it looks dangerous, i know people will still attempt to go in.